Model 12 C (pistol grip stock, octagon barrel and crescent metal buttplate) Model 12 A (straight grip, round barrel and flat non-metal buttplate) No, the "Model 12" is the main model category. if you could help me understand all this. I thought all the model 12's were gallery specials and they also had sub models such as 12a, 12b, 12c etc. Kind of a dumb question but is their just a gallery special model. I'm thinking of taking pictures of all the markings to help figure this riddle out.
Attached is a picture of the barrel marks to give you a better idea. That marking code was put into production in 1921 that is why I believe this is a pre-1921 rifle plus the serial number is under 50,000. as for the date marks I have seen the diagram before and mine has no marks that match it. But knowin the exact history behind this rifle will make it that much better when I take my children out to shoot with it.Ĭmalan1213 wrote:Thanks all your input is really giving me hope that this is a valuable gun, not speaking in monetary value because I don't sell my guns they are like children, but more of historical significance of a rifle from the early 1900's. The gun fires, with some problems with extraction that I am trying to fix. I will keep trying but if I can get any further help I would be ecstatic. I have been searching forums but to no avail. The code on mine does not match any code I have read about, and considering the serial number is 48559 it is quite possible it was made prior to 1921. As for the date of manufactuer, remington stamped the left side of the barrel with a date code after 1921. Not to mention that this was a gallery gun and probably passed through thousands of hands and who knows what alterations the original owner made. Thanks for your help, I was under the understanding that it was a Remington Model 12 Gallery Special but within the model 12 there are many different variations such as the 12a, 12b, 12c, 12d, 12e with the 12c having many different sub types such as the Remington Special, NRA Target Model, and the Extra Option Model. If some one could please enlighten me it would be greatly appreciated. And the barrel markings match nothing I've researched. I am sure this rifle is a standard model, but no where on the weapon does it say peerless, expert, or premier. The magazine tube is steel with a brass inner tube. The stock has a pistol style grip and a creasent shape with metal butt plate. Moving towards the barrel a sideways 2 is also stamped about an inch away. Left side of barrel almost against the receiver in a vertical pattern the letters H S stamped on it. Other Patents Pending."īottom of the barrel just past receiver has the number 1 4 stamped on it. U.S.A." Second line "Pedersen's Patents Jany 5, 1909. Top of barrel just past the rear sight moving towards the front sight reads "Remington Arms Company. Left side of barrel near the receiver reads "22 Short" Left side of receiver reads "Gallery Special" Serial number also appears on trigger frame when the receiver is removed. Serial number stamp on bottom of receiver "48559" with "R W" above it. I understand you should measure to the end of the chamber face but I'm not going to try to take the barrel off. I hear John Gyde is the expert on these rifles.Ģ3" octagon barrel measured from tip of barrel to the start of the reciever. I will try to be as detailed as possible and if someone could help with the exact model and date of manufacture it would be great. My grandfather died unexpectedly years ago and my grandmother gave me a rifle that she didn't even know he had. SAME STRUCTURE AS THE Model 870 listed aboveġ987 TO PRESENT: “PC” 12 GA., 1999 “TL“ 20 GA.So from what I've read you guys get this question a lot, but I have searched many sites and cannot find an answer. LW MAGNUM (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”)ġ963 TO APPROX. “LIGHT WEIGHT” (“LW”) (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”) Model 870 LETTER SUFFIX (DESIGNATES GAUGE) Call or email Remington and give them the serial number, they will tell you when it was born, however keep in mind they do make errors.īack up what they tell you with this information ġ950 TO APPROX 1968: NO SERIAL NUMBER PREFIXġ968 TO PRESENT: LETTERS USED (IN SEQUENCE)